Sunday, June 11, 2017

The Bug-Out Versus In-Situ Shelter

The bugout is a risky proposition at the best of times. I never understood why so many people base their plans around it.

It doesn't take much to keep you from getting from A to B. So much can go wrong with the plan, especially with more than one person involved, it is impossible to predict all the foreseeable interruptions in such a journey.

The best plan is opening a door and going downstairs ... then closing a vault door behind you. That's a plan.


Ave said...

It might seem completely out of topic, but here it is :

Extraverted people cannot stand the idea of being confined in a safe place, be it a house or a shelter. I heard them say so, repeatedly, and they act accordingly.

This is why most of them hate survivalists and/or surviving (the show "Unbreakable Kimmy Smith" comes to mind, but also that terrible rewrite of "10 Cloverfield Lane" I mentionned last week)

This might be so systematic it ought to be part of an MBTI test :)

In reality, extroverts don't have anywhere to bug out to. Their idea is to rush to the introvert's place and steal his stuff. Even if the person is his own grandmother who still has a potatoe patch out there in the boonies.

This is why you never talk on people who come up with Bugging Out as a survival plan, you just agree with them and then make sure they can't trace you back to your place.

KW Jackson said...

I've been growing veggies for 9 years. For 4 years I have been using my greenhouse. It is not that easy to just move to some area and start growing even subsistence levels of crops. There has yet to be one person who has setup a greenhouse and got it producing survival volumes of good food on their first attempt. If you do not run a market garden now how can anyone think they are just going to learn it come TEOTWAWKI?

Other than that a sound article and in the context you presented an excellent argument for "bugging in" (as always).

Texas Arcane said...

@KW Jackson

Prime example of something that needs to be proven in advance - that in the setting you retreat to you demonstrate you have already successfully grown food and/or managed permaculture.

This is why I plan to run my next hydroponics lab and fish farm year round in my shelter, not just pile a bunch of supplies in one corner and hope for the best when TSHTF. There's always something you forgot and the best time to discover that is before you desperately need it.

nfoe said...

Two excellent books; one on the topic of plant mineral deficiencies (extremely important) and another to give a perspective on plant disease resistance.

Texas Arcane said...


Excellent! Thanks for those links.

Texas Arcane said...


One of the first proof-of-concepts I am going to write for my built-in expert system (using markdown syntax) is going to be a plant health diagnosis Q&A! That page will be a huge help.

Sam said...

The best most productive way to grow hydroponically is the "Hempy Bucket Method". It was invented by an indoor Weed grower. A better media than perlite that Hempy uses that I came up with is is to use fired diatomaceous earth. For the hole cut in the side use a cut piece of silt fence. This is the woven fabric that you see on the side of the road by construction sites used to hold back mud and silt from washing from the site while letting water through. You can get it at the biog box store construction stores.

Here's a part number for NAPA parts store oil dry which is fired diatomaceous earth. Use it to grow your plants in. You can test to see if it fired by mixing with water. It will have a little dust you can rinse off. Water it an let it soak a lot to make sure it's fired. Some absorbent clays are not fired.

After the planes have grown and cut off the bucket let the roots dry completely and then shake out the roots over a 1/4" screen. Very easy and this is the best way possible to grow hydro. There is no better.