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Friday, February 24, 2012

Defense Intelligence Agency : China Preparing To Wax Kwanzanian Ass Big-Time

America complains here that another nation has taken to orbit. America advocates one thing and does another. They tell the rest of the planet that space-based weapons are banned while secretly building a huge arsenal of orbital platforms bristling with nukes.

The Chinese are apparently hard enough men to think realistically about waging this sort of war 24/7 while the U.S. melts down internally into a puddle of bubbling fecal matter. They know that this is probably the last aspect of the U.S. War Machine that is formidable and they know once they achieve parity here it will be game and match.

Two can play at that game, Kwanzans. Looks like the Chinese can play better, too.

I told you ... those Sunday Supplements in my youth describing hell bombs from the troposphere and cobalt-60 death shrouds were all right on the money. It was everyone else who got it wrong. This is not your neat little Herman Kahn style conflict coming. It is a Klausewitzian final hour.
Comments :

"There have been lots of tidbits about China building vast underground tunnels for their nukes. I think it varies from about 3000-5000 miles of tunnels underground, and they seem to be just getting started. I honestly think that the Chinese have come to the conclusion that a full scale global thermonuclear war is not only possible in the future, but actually survivable and winnable, if you can believe that. They seem to intend to come out of such a war with much of their industry, weaponry, and civilian population intact. The only sure fire way of doing so is, IMO, moving EVERYTHING underground. Now, contrast that with the Kwa, which decided decades ago that nuclear war is NOT winnable, and thus anyone else in the world would be crazy to initiate full scale nuke attacks on anyone else. They rely on the principles of MAD to keep them safe, as their scienjimasists have convinced them that not even cockroaches survive global nuclear war. I guess that's true though, as cockroaches cannot dig deep under the ground like the Chinese are doing. To make matters even more hilarious, China's incredible rise over the past 2 decades would never have been possible if Kwa and the rest of the western world hadn't filled their walmarts and their homes with chinese made crap. Haha, Kwa even funded their past decade of war with the Muslim world by borrowing heavily from China. Good job Kwa, way to think ahead. Guess that can't be helped when you are trained to think only uptill the next election."

Clearly, what was "Crazy" on Vault-Co 5-10 years ago is increasingly mainstream.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

Want to bet if China has started their own Orion program? With just a couple of Orion spaceships in orbit you could rule this planet with ease.

Anonymous said...

Fug, they already make a big chunk of the chipsets we use, including mil .....

how do we know they don't have "OFF" switches embedded in their architecture, as a hypothetical

get yer Rosdetta Stone Mandarin whilst ye can

Anonymous said...

There have been lots of tidbits about China building vast underground tunnels for their nukes. I think it varies from about 3000-5000 miles of tunnels underground, and they seem to be just getting started. I honestly think that the Chinese have come to the conclusion that a full scale global thermonuclear war is not only possible in the future, but actually survivable and winnable, if you can believe that. They seem to intend to come out of such a war with much of their industry, weaponry, and civilian population intact. The only sure fire way of doing so is, IMO, moving EVERYTHING underground.

Now, contrast that with the Kwa, which decided decades ago that nuclear war is NOT winnable, and thus anyone else in the world would be crazy to initiate full scale nuke attacks on anyone else. They rely on the principles of MAD to keep them safe, as their scienjimasists have convinced them that not even cockroaches survive global nuclear war. I guess that's true though, as cockroaches cannot dig deep under the ground like the Chinese are doing.

To make matters even more hilarious, China's incredible rise over the past 2 decades would never have been possible if Kwa and the rest of the western world hadn't filled their walmarts and their homes with chinese made crap. Haha, Kwa even funded their past decade of war with the Muslim world by borrowing heavily from China. Good job Kwa, way to think ahead. Guess that can't be helped when you are trained to think only uptill the next election.

ANDRE OUELLET said...

Stewart Nozette was busted in a sting where he thought he was selling NASA secrets to the Mossad. The BBC said "In return for the money, Nozette allegedly agreed to divulge information about US satellites, early warning systems and major elements of defence strategy." Stewart Nozette admits spy-for-Israel charge With traitors like this I wouldn't be surprised to see China fielding systems that we have developed, but cannot afford. They just unveiled a stealth fighter that looks quite like the F-22 (that the USAF cannot afford, opting for the inferior F-35).

Rowan said...

Breaking News.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQZbOY5Q3ZU

Lord James of Blackheath: 15 Trillion Dollar Fraud Exposed in UK Parliment

How the Dollar is being propped up. No other Lords seem interested, who is this bumbling fool? He's not important!


One day I hope to have children, if I do I will show them this video and say 'Here is a real man', speaking the truth despite knowing it will probably mean his death.

Anonymous said...

This is nonsense. US military spending is still more than the next 15 countries combined, including China, Russia, Germany, France, UK, etc.

43% of all military spending in the world is spent by the US. And it's been this way for many decades. The total US military capability is so far ahead of China, Russia, etc that it's pure fantasy that any of those nations would attempt to take the US on.

Don't believe the fear-mongering, China might be a world military power, but they are an emerging high schooler compared to the USA's 10th consecutive All-Star appearance as a pro.

The Pilgrim said...

anon 2:10: sheer delusion (or possibly spot-on satire?)

if there's one thing living in Kenyan-run America should've taught you, it's that competence and a solid gameplan beats mindless spending, everytime.

China has far and away the highest average IQ of any nation--and it's not like it's a small nation, either. I'll take that against a nation of man-apes throwing around vast sums of monopoly money to make it seem like they're actually accomplishing something.

The more I study China and their strategy, the more I realize they have an entire population of intelligent, industrious people willing to make whatever sacrifice is necessary to advance their civilization as a whole.

When I look at America, I see a nation of people who are not even willing to sacrifice their EBT cards and Sunday night football.

America is the blowhard with a glass-jaw; China is the trained street-fighter, sitting quietly in the corner waiting for the perfect opportunity. When the Big Bar Fight called WWIII finally breaks out, I know which one I'd bet on winning.

Texas Arcane said...

Ditto all.

Texas Arcane said...

... except for the severely schizophrenic nut at 2:10 pm

Texas Arcane said...

Rowan that Aussie made fire shelter is awesome, I originally was scheduled to have one delivered last year but canceled at the last moment. Need more money like everybody else. I was going to use it as another decon and generator room.

Sam said...

Not so fast. We still have enormous amounts of nuclear material that can be fashioned into nukes quickly.
We have small amounts of of anti-ballistic missiles now and can ramp up. The design work is done. The kinetic kill anti-ballistic missiles we have now can be made a magnitude more effective with nuclear warheads.
We don't make all our electronics but we can. Have you ever heard of electron beams used instead of light for semiconductor processing? We've been doing this for a long time. For commodity manufacturing it's not cost effective but for limited amounts of defense equipment it's perfect.
What about the "unknown-unknowns" from the Chinese perspective. My guess is we have very extensive space assets. I think we have anti-gravity craft kept very,very secret.
Prototype mechanical "inertia drives" were built in the 50's. Around the same time articles linking gravity, inertia and electric fields disappeared from the space science literature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_drive
With anti-gravity we could economically "Thor" their tunnels. Tungsten telephone poles. No where to hide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment
The key is there are too many unknowns. Supposedly the U.S.A. has also been tunneling at a breakneck speed. If they don't completely destroy the U.S.A. they will lose completely. There will be no Chinese left. Complete binary solution.

Texas Arcane said...

Sam, where is your civil defense program?

Does the U.S. intend to fight WW3 with skeleton staffing of people in their tunnels and elites? Whence comes the manufacturing base and workforce to replenish and support the military operations?

Sorry, Sam but this kind of dreamworld escapism is what got us into this mess in the first place. I believe that the only purpose of the underground tunnels in the United States is to provide for the survival of the elites and nobody else. Trying to think far enough ahead to win a nuclear war with China is so far outside the capabilities of the last men in the Kwa it is ridiculous. There are not enough bright people left in the Kwa to support your supposition.

There are tunnels in the U.S. and they are there to enable elites to reach safe sanctuary quickly via magrail. Ordinary peasants do not factor into this at all. Neither do these tunnels exist to support rapid transit of mobile missile batteries. Their sole purpose is to help the elite travel in style when the end comes.

You keep talking like the Kwa is a nation but it fell apart a long time ago. It is every man for himself.

Anonymous said...

Geez, this talk of China attacking the US is so stupid it flush smarter organs down the toilet every day.

Nukes not only kill a lot of people and destroy infrastructure, they contaminate for decades.

No one wins. Everyone one loses, because it's only bunker-mentality clowns who think ruling over a Mad Max world is some kind of victory.

Whatever. Tex has been peddling this nonsense for a decade now. ITZ is always coming, yet it never quite arrives.

Texas Arcane said...

11:35 PM

Even if your reasoning was sound and anything other than emotionally driven denial, you would still need to ask yourself a very important question.

Most people can afford to be wrong on here.

Can you?

Anonymous said...

On a personal level being right or wrong wouldn't really matter. I live in an area that would be a high target area. Even if I was living underground it wouldn't matter because the surface would be so irradiated I wouldn't be able to come up for years without getting a fatal dose of radiation.

But see that's the point. The Chinese know that while they might have some of their population survive a nuclear war, their entire economy and infrastructure, along with the world economy, would be destroyed. A war like that would hurl the world back into a pre-industrial age. No one would win.

And in fact we're China's biggest customer. Why would they even want to start a war? They are hardly even communists anymore.

Saber-rattling always occurs.

Anonymous said...

2:10: Yes Kwan military spending is greater than the rest of the world combined per year. However, the main reason for this is that the average wage of the Kwan worker, be he a cook on an aircraft carrier or a hi tech engineer at Lockheed Martin is many, many, many times greater than the wage for a similar ranked Chinese employee or even a Russian employee. When you take that factor into account, the difference between Kwan military spending vs Chinese and Russian military spending is not that high. Nothing proves this more than the fact that Kwa actually stopped production of their top tier 5th generation fighter jet, the F-22 Raptor, while Russia's Sukhoi has just developed their 5th generation fighter jet, the T-50. The T-50 can do pretty much everything the F-22 can do, (it is also stealth capable for instance) AND it is around 30 million bucks cheaper at a pop. Oh and Russia has entered it into full scale production and plan to have hundreds of them by 2015. So yeah, what's the fucking use of having military spending greater than the rest of the world combined when you cannot even afford to match the air capabilities of your primary rival.

Oh and by the way, as Cleve said, the sheer amount of money spent is not enough. It must also be applied effectively, and there must be little to no wastage. Unfortunately for the Kwa, they are reknowned world wide for unecessarily throwing millions at a problem and hoping that somehow this will cause the problem to solve itself. The Chinese and the Russians however first identify the problem, work out a low cost, practical solution, and then spend the money. Remember, during the space race, Both Kwans and the Soviets discovered that ink pens do not work in space. Kwa developed a pen over 1-2 years costing hundreds of millions that could write in space, and could even write underwater. The Soviets on the other hand, just used a pencil. Is it any surprise they got to space first? (and thus perfected ICBM technology first, which btw was the real reason for the space race, and is the real reason any nation wants to go into space, at least initially)

Anonymous said...

@Sam 9:18: I admire your patriotism but sadly I have to tell you that you are living in a dream world, la la land. If America was indeed as capable in space tech as you persume, why would they need to hitch a ride into space from the Russians? Why would NASA in 2007 be utterly flabergasted when China disabled one of their sattelites via a ground based laser? They were utterly shocked, btw, they had no idea this was even possible, much less that China of all nations would have this capability. When you take into account that the entire Kwan military apparatus depends almost entirely on a working network of sattelites for basically everything, the ability of an opponent to completely disable their sattelites would nullify much of Kwans military superiority. To be frank, I also think it is pretty obvious that Kwa has lost their ability to land on the moon. China however, will soon become the next nation to land on the moon. Then, it will be onto Mars for them.

Do not expect any major world changing inventions inventions to come out of the Kwa any time soon. Their economy is in a death spiral. 15 TRILLION dollars of debt is not a fucking joke. Even a retard can see that there is absolutely no way Kwa will EVER be able to pay it off. Nada. Not happening. All they are doing by desperate measure such as raising the debt ceiling is prolonging the inevitable. Measures that could actually aid their economy, such as shutting down military bases all over the world, drastically cutting down social security, etc etc are off the table for obvious reasons (the former would not be allowed by the psychotic neocons that rule Kwa from the shadows, while the latter would result in MASSIVE Negro riots in Kwa that would tear their society apart)

Bottomline: Sorry to break it to you Kwans, but Kwa is no longer a superpower. They cannot afford cutting edge weapons anymore (F-22) and thus are fast loosing their military edge, they cannot afford a proper space program (no replacement for the retired space shuttle has even begun production), their economy is in freefall and their majority debt is being held by China of all nations, gays are now openly allowed to serve in their armed forces, which will keep real masculine men off from joining the military (since they don't want to partake in the buttbuddy gangbang orgy fuckfest Kwan military bunkers are soon to become), their veterans keep committing suicide at accelerated rates (only nation in the world that this happens to btw) and ofcourse their actions have rightfully earned them the enmity of lots of folks around the world.

All that remains for this party to get started is for the Kwan dollar to stop becoming the worlds reserve currency. With the euro in serious trouble as well, I think it's pretty obvious that the Chinese Yen will become the next reserve currency. That will be the death blow to Kwan economy. The neocons and the zionists however, will never face the reality that their time has passed, and will resort to the military option.

China knows this, thus all this preparation they have been doing for the past decade.

Texas Arcane said...

If you believe the neos will allow the capital of steal to collapse and be overrun by towelheads and then they will concede the field as their primary military stronghold Kwanzania sinks into a dismal third world sumphole, simply retiring to their swiss chalets without struggling to revive the economy with wartime demand ... then everything we have ever done at Vault-Co is probably a waste of time.

If you really believe that is the way it will play out. Hint : It won't.

If you don't believe that, you should have started on a deeprock nuclear shelter ten years ago.

Anonymous said...

"many times greater than the wage for a similar ranked Chinese employee or even a Russian employee."

Which is the reason why the US/EU can never hope to compete again against the Russian/Chinese development models, so the elites decided to create the staged crisis in US and Europe in order to collect all the money and force the western population to work more for less in the hope the they could become competitive again against the rising economies.

Anonymous said...

"If you believe the neos will allow the capital of steal to collapse and be overrun by towelheads"

The neos and anti-Whites I know, really believe they can tame Muslims and turn Black people into White people.

Yes, they really are that stupid and anyone with common sense knows it will end in rivers of blood.

There is nothing dumber than a dumb man, who thinks he is smart.

Anonymous said...

February 26, 2012 7:08 PM

John Howard said as much when he was in power.

BB

Anonymous said...

Well, Howard was right.

Look at this analysis on the performance of the Russian economy. Growth and surpluses undreamed of for most the West, let alone the bankrupt Kwa, in the current conditions, and with no hope of getting even close. And this for an economy that relies almost exclusively on energy exports. If Putin goes ahead with his plan to diversify the economy I can see the Russians in a generation's time living in cities in the sky and colonizing the entire solar system. Lack of democrassy, curruptiooon and beerocracy seem to work miracles these days. By that time the Kwans will be enjoying the beneftis of democrassy, diversity, globalwarmthinkery and gay marriage on the ruins of their civilization. The Kwans know that the only way to reverse this is either by pushing "democrassy" and "human rights" in Russia (ie debt slavery and every decadent liberal bullshit that is destroying them in Russia too) or nuclear war, neither of which is going to work for the Kwanstanians.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2011/12/focus-1

Anonymous said...

China has more than 40 underground air bases and bunkers that are impossible to destroy:

http://www.businessinsider.com/bi-chinese-underground-air-bases-2012-2

Anonymous said...

DIA Director: China preparing for space warfare.

http://freebeacon.com/dia-director-china-preparing-for-space-warfare/

Sam said...

I agree with most of the derogatory statements about my country that you've listed here. I don't believe that I personally would survive a war with China. I'm a former patriot. I've been rode too hard to be so any more. However I do stand by what I've said. The Chinese CAN NOT win a nuclear war against the USA at this time nor in the immediate future. Whether we have a space shuttle or not is irrelevant. You notice we don't have a SR-71 anymore. You believe it hasn't been replaced?
To win a war you must have control of space, air, sea, then the ground. They do not have this and will not any time soon.
Civilians in my country are creating low earth orbit space ships. You think the military can do no better? Many, many, many years ago in Analog they wrote about using air to air refueling of liquid oxygen for space access. That's probably just a toy.
A quote,"In 1995 Jim Goodall interviewed his friend Ben Rich, a former Vice President of the Lockheed Corporation and asked what was at Area 51. Ben’s reply was “We have things in the desert that are 50 years beyond what you can comprehend. If you have seen it on Star Trek or Star Wars or whatever science fiction movie you have seen we have been there and done that.” Ben Rich knew he was dying.
Maybe we don't need another shuttle.
They go to great lengths to hide things. In the 1980's at Nellis Air Force base A-7's would taxi up and down the runway even though it was said there were none there. They had a missle on the side with red lights on the nose cone. On the side of the missile was a radioactive symbol. We all wondered what it was all about. I only found out by reading Ben Rich's book years later. They were using Inertial navigation and bombing computers from the A7 on the F117. They did all that just to hide the maintenance on the electronics.
You forget that all of the people in the USA are not incompetent. The genes of the people who made the US have not dissipated into the void. They're still here. My country is in a greatly degraded state and I deplore the evil machinations of my so called leaders. It will get worse but it's not over yet. The only reason it keeps plodding on is the rest of the world is in some cases worse shape.
China is in terrible shape. Their people make poverty wages. Many are un or underemployed. It looks as though they are about to undergo a horrific crash of epic proportions. You've heard the term,"demography is destiny". They're probably doomed. They're going to get old before they get rich. I wouldn't trade places with them.
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