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Wednesday, September 9, 2009

Juries Are An Extension Of Christian Theology

Don't answer me as a Christian. Answer me as an atheist. Are you smart enough to figure out what utility value that our prior Christian framework provided? Are you sure? Or are you going to just start squealing about how Christ is an extension of the Egyptian Sungod mythology?

The problem with atheists (I know from direct experience) is that they are almost as crappy at atheism as most Krisschans are at practicing Christianity. Most all of these people don't even know what they don't know.

Behind every single successful civilization that you will ever learn of (as we progeny of Christendom adjudge success) there lies a simple unifying core ethical framework that any idiot can be taught in ten simple lessons. As a matter of fact, behind every single successful civilization there lies Christianity, period.

People won't admit it because they are creatures of vanity. The danger in admitting it for an atheist is the risk that they won't remain an atheist forever once they start to think about it.

I use to sit in Times Square in Wendy's Restaurant on a Saturday for many years in New York City and watch as my fellow secular humanists strayed in (habitually late, don't impose your values about timekeeping on me, man) and wonder if perhaps they might be the only group of people I had ever seen even sorrier than Christians. Once a man no longer believes in God, he will believe in most anything at all. Pity the society that needs to post one of these idjits on jury duty.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law." - Thomas Jefferson

j said...

"The danger in admitting it for an atheist is the risk that they won't remain an atheist forever once they start to think about it."

That is illogical, Tex, an appeal to the consequences of a belief. Christianity *may* provide a solid ethical framework to build a civilization on, but that does not mean that the actual theology is true, only that some of the basic rules of morality prescribed are necessary underpinnings to a sound society. I think your earlier incarnation as a secular humanist was more on target.

Anonymous said...

"As a matter of fact, behind every single successful civilization there lies Christianity, period"

China.

Anonymous said...

Terry Pratchet had it all sorted out in his book "The Hogfather"
Boiled down, he says religion (Santa Claus story etc.) trains us when we're succeptable (young) to behave morally when we know better.

Lucid

Texas Arcane said...

China is a successful civilization? Really? After killing 80 million people and finally adopting American market systems to generate demand? The same people are in charge as have been the last fifty years.

How about China fell bass-ackwards into American spending power and still hasn't managed to make much of it?

China is fail on so many levels it is hard to know where to begin.

Anonymous said...

Tex, you may want to study "Our Oriental Heritage" (vol. 1) from The Story of Civilization. China has a few years of history before Mao.

Anonymous said...

Do ya suppose if we mention Angkor Wat, Tex will drudge up Pol Pot? Can't wait for Tex to explain how the Greek and Roman Civilizations, the greatest of all, were based on Christianity. LOL

Texas Arcane said...

You people who think previous civilizations were as successful as Christian ones (as you live in one, of course) should know that in all likelihood you would have been peasants used as target practice by soldiers or watched your wife or daughter deflowered by the local warlord.

Only in Christian civilizations has the individual found any human dignity or been treated according to a justice applied as uniformly as possible. That's why people fight tooth and nail to sneak into such places.

Anonymous said...

"As the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries." --Treaty of peace and friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli, of Barbary (ratified by the U.S. Senate on June 7, 1797)

Anonymous said...

Here's to success.

"I saw the helpless Cherokees arrested and dragged from their homes, and driven at the bayonet point into the stockades. And in the chill of a drizzling rain on an October morning I saw them loaded like cattle or sheep into six hundred and forty-five wagons and started toward the west....On the morning of November the 17th we encountered a terrific sleet and snow storm with freezing temperatures and from that day until we reached the end of the fateful journey on March the 26th 1839, the sufferings of the Cherokees were awful. The trail of the exiles was a trail of death. They had to sleep in the wagons and on the ground without fire. And I have known as many as twenty-two of them to die in one night of pneumonia due to ill treatment, cold and exposure..."

Private John G. Burnett
Captain Abraham McClellan's Company,
2nd Regiment, 2nd Brigade, Mounted Infantry
Cherokee Indian Removal 1838-39

Anonymous said...

"That's why people fight tooth and nail to sneak into such places."

Mexico is more Christian than the US.

Texas Arcane said...

You are a confounded bunch, deluded by your own nonsense.

Just wait a while, you're going to have plenty of time to think about all of this after it's gone.

Anonymous said...

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law." - Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson is "nonsense?"

Or can Tex show us the New Testament passage addressing Jury Trials?

Anonymous said...

English Speaking Peoples have changed the Christian religion into accepting common law. Thomas Jefferson had it right.

Texas Arcane said...

If you are patient, soon you will be wise.

Anonymous said...

"If you are patient, soon you will be wise."

"Itz" coming, Tex? Well you're bound to be right some time :)

Still its nice to see you're still blogging even if you've became a tad more extreme.


-Rzero

Anonymous said...

I'm prepared better for global thermonuclear war, biological warfare, and everything else better than you can ever dream of, Tex.

So do you still wish me the worst of luck because I don't believe in your angry sky god?

Here, I thought you wanted to help people prepare, but you're acting so Muslim - i.e., anybody who doesn't submit to your angry sky god is damned to hell (or so you fervently hope.)

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