Friday, February 13, 2009

Holocaust Of The 20th Century : Feb 13, 1945

Nuremberg was worse than meaningless without the Allied leaders standing trial for what they did to Dresden.

It was without question the ugliest mass genocide of civilians, mostly women and children, in the modern era. Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined cannot equal the death toll in the city of Dresden.

What all of these "heroes" we are raised to think were great men are nothing but commonplace vulgar psychotics who smoked cigars and drank fine wine while women and children were grilled in their hundreds of thousands like pork chops in a barbecue that they deliberately stoked with the technology they had at the time. No doubt had they nukes they would have used them, but what they had was napalm and they used it to turn a city into the surface of the sun for a few hours.

To really understand Dresden and the absurdity of the 20th century in general, I highly recommend you read SLAUGHTERHOUSE FIVE to truly comprehend what a bunch of ravenous, mad beasts that "civilized" men are. It is the eyewitness of a man we know was there at the time. Vonnegut did not embellish his account and he saw the civilians machine-gunned by planes in the rivers that flew so close he said he could have run his hand along the bellies as they passed. They knew what they were doing at Dresden. They could see the baby carriages and the invalids in bandages in the crosshairs of their guns as they squeezed the trigger.

Men in the large are damned. Almost every single one of them is born damned and is destined for the fires of hell from the instant they are conceived. God alone knows who his children are ... the question is, do you know if you are a child of God or one of the others who are destined for the outer darkness? It only remains for you to find out who you are. God already knows.

The next great fire will again be stoked by these damned creatures but this time it is themselves and their vile reign that will burn up in that conflagration. Good riddance to bad rubbish - let God be true and every man a liar.


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trueaim said...

It is a day of reckoning when one starts to understand that those who fought for Germany were the good guys, the real heros of WWI & WWII. Anybody who took an order from the mongrel monsters - Roosevelt, Stalin and Churchill was fighting for the wrong team. That's why Christian crusaders came from all over the rest of Europe and the world to fight for the Nazi's not the Allies.

Anonymous said...

The Nazi crematoriums were just as hot as the city streets of Dresden.

Stop whining.

Anonymous said...

Only people who lose wars are "war criminals"

Churchill: History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.

Curtis LeMay: I suppose if I had lost the war, I would have been tried as a war criminal.

Texas Arcane said...

Anon 3:18

I've got some bad news for you. The Nazis were as bad or worse and the Nazi leadership was nothing but ugly vulgar thugs, dope addicts, queers and moral reprobates as bad anyone on the other side. Starting with Hitler himself, the little draft dodger who could. Do you know if Speer had carried out Hitler's orders he would have wiped out the German race altogether? The entire country would have been a giant graveyard if Adolph had his way.

Anonymous said...

You haven't stated the half of it Tex, they timed their magnesium fire bombing runs to co-inside with the cities emergency response personnel, their paramedics, and firefighters. Their plan was to start a fire, wait for the emergency personnel to arrive on sceen, then bomb and get rid of them so that no one would be able to stop the city from burning. An incredible loss, the city was cultural hub of europe at the time. They bombed the place for days until eventually the fire begame to fuel it's self consuming brick and steel. The flames reached half a mile into the sky and consumed so much oxygen to feed it's self that the winds on the outskirts of the city blowing in were 75 mph. When all was said and done, over 100,000 were dead and the only standing structure in the heart of the city was an old church, figure on that one. But, you are right, the victory writes history and puts themselves in as the heroes. Big boys and their toys, immoral and impatient, our leaders bark the orders while everyone else lives the nightmare, they are so removed from everything that no action has seeming consequences to them, what, they get bad mouthed in the media then go to their mansions and tell their loved ones that they had to make hard decisions because no one else would, no, because no one in their right mind would have done such things to other people let alone to children. I was quite thrilled to hear even though nothing yet or will come of it, of there being talk of putting the last administration on trial for crimes against humanity, I had to chuckle at that. Mainly because I felt that there was no need for me to go to Iraq in the first place, but I did my job and prevented as much collateral damage as possible at the exspense of my men and myself, but I am happy to say that I am the only one that was ever seriously wounded, hesatation and complacency are killers, that and a love for children, cost me my leg but I would gladly pay it again to save an innocent, it really wasn't that bad. Keep up the good work Tex, I hear you, construction begins hopefully soon, enough.

Vault 13

trueaim said...

The new Hitler and the Nazi's perspective comes to light as all things true eventually do.

Texas Arcane said...

Most of our leaders then and today are the kinds of nasty little kids you see driving pins through insects when they are little, kids who didn't get enough oxygen to their brains when they were born, kids so cold, cruel and utterly otherwise emotionless they are more reptile than human.

The worse part of all is that when enough of them occupy the institutions, they will brand the warm blooded mammals as the "strange" ones and everyone will be coerced into behaving in their same mad fashion just in order to survive.

The psychotic compels people who might otherwise display much humanity to become psychotic in the world that the psychotic builds. By the time he is finished, you either act stark raving nuts or you starve.

Just like Obama, they always cloak themselves in warm ambiguous fake emotions and compassion they will never feel. That's why you want suffrage for women, they know females are easily fooled by this bullsh*t and will always vote in a communist demagogue who talks this way.

Anonymous said...


I'm more with Irving on this one. Anyone who manages so effortlessly to shift his allegiance fits the profile of sociopath much better than people like Goering who didn't try to manipulate their way out of the mess but went down with the nation as examples of integrity, loyalty, and nobility of character.

It may surprise you to learn that the prime mover behind the evacuation of Berlin's Jews was less Dr. Goebbels than that great hero of the postwar media, Albert Speer. If you read Speer's genuine diary, not the sanitized one he gave to the German Federal Archives, but his genuine diary, you'll find that from early 1941, when he was chief of construction for Berlin, he makes repeated references to the "Main Resettlement Department" ("Hauptabteilung Umsiedlung"), which he controlled.

You see, Speer -- who was a close friend of Goebbels and his wife -- had been given the task of rebuilding Berlin -- a fine and appropriate task for an ambitious young architect with great vision, and, it has to be said, also great ability. In order to rebuild Berlin, though, he had first to clear slums, and this required that he house the slum-dwellers elsewhere. So, wanting to clear the Jewish areas of west Berlin, he persuaded Goebbels to start a campaign to drive the Jews out of the city, and thus empty their apartments. Speer had his eye on something like 24,000 Jewish houses and apartments in Berlin. ...

Single Jews with no families were the first to be rounded up and deported. If the family had a "privileged" member -- for example, a Jew who had married a non-Jew, or a Jewish man who was working in a munitions factory -- that one member saved the entire family. Jews who weren't privileged in some way were liable to be picked up without warning, allowed only 40 kilograms of baggage, put on a train and shipped out.

Why didn't the Nazi leadership want to bomb cities, as mentioned in the article Tex linked to, or use new destructive methods of aerial warfare, whereas the Allies were quite happy to? Doesn't sound like psychopats to me.

So, how about Goebbels, the "Big Liar"? Well, as Jacques Ellul points out in his book Propaganda:

There remains the problem of Goebbels' reputation. He wore the title of Big Liar (bestowed by allied propaganda) and yet he never stopped battling for propaganda to be as accurate as possible. He preferred being cynical and brutal to being caught in a lie. He used to say: ‘Everybody must know what the situation is.’ He was always the first to announce disastrous events or difficult situations without hiding anything. The result was a general belief, between 1939 and 1942, that German communications not only were more concise, clearer, and less cluttered, but were more truthful than allied communications (American and neutral opinion) - and furthermore, that the Germans published all the news two or three days before the allies. All this is so that pinning the title of Big Liar on Goebbles must be considered quite a propaganda success.

Tex's mold for decent men is pretty strict if you have to find what he would qualify as a "day job" in the depression ridden Germany of early 20th century - and if, after having worked in various jobs that don't qualify as Tex's "day job", you become a successful politician, howsoever needed, you're automatically an unproductive sociopath.

In one particular case, we know that a trainload of 1030 Jews left Berlin on November 27, 1941, destined for Riga, Latvia. It's recorded in the Speer diary and in the Goebbels diary. It arrived at a place called Skiatowa, eight kilometers outside Riga, on the morning of November 30, 1941, in the midst of a mass extermination. So these newly-arrived Jews were taken along with local Riga Jews, lined up along pits, and shot.

That very day, Heinrich Himmler went to see Hitler at his headquarters. In my book Hitler's War [in the 1991 Focal Point edition, between pages 506-507], you'll find a facsimile of Himmler's own handwritten notes of his telephone conversations on that day, when he made a couple of phone calls from Hitler's headquarters. One note records a call at 1:30 p.m., Nov. 30, 1941, to Gestapo chief Reinhard Heydrich. It reads: "Jew transport from Berlin. No liquidation."

What's the explanation for Himmler's words here? My theory is that he may have said to Hitler: "Mein F├╝hrer, I've got a bit of a problem housing these Jews we're shipping out of Berlin. Why don't we just bump them off?," and Hitler probably answered: "Out of the question." So Himmler sends a frantic message to Heydrich, saying they're not to be liquidated. But it's too late, they're already dead -- the whole trainload. We know this because we have the timetable of what happened that day.

Such a psycho, that Hitler fellow.