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Friday, January 30, 2009

Amazing Breakthrough for Vault Lighting

Sounds incredible. In addition to internal lighting, I was immediately interested in the potential of this technology as grow lights for underground permaculture gardening.

What I would like to see is a foot square ceiling panel for $20.00 that runs off 12 volts 50 ma and gives off enough light to raise vegetables on a 1 meter by 1 meter square bed underneath it with adequate lighting to replace the sun for 8 hours a day.

Incidentally, I went into a hydroponics shop the other day looking for a low voltage fan and the shop owner began to get really angry at me when I suggested his 240 VAC 300 watt ventilation fans might draw a lot of current for a small homeowner garden. I made this comment very innocently but like typical Gold Coast he was red-faced and cursing me as a yank within seconds, then he grew insulting and told me to leave his store. This happens all the time on the Gold Coast, I never have any idea what I have said that sets them off this way. I only realized after leaving the shop that the reason the idiot exploded that way was that I had unintentionally revealed in a few sentences that I am probably the only person who lives on the Gold Coast interested in hydroponics for growing food instead of dope. These idiots think nothing of a $200.00 a day electricity bill for their "hydroponics garden" when they grow cash crops on it instead of food. You'd be hard pressed to find a person interested in running a hydroponics garden in this region with efficiency, for example off a solar panel or a wind generator. They just never consider these approaches because all they do is grow narcotics with the miraculous technology of hydroponics. Necessity is the mother of invention and their "crops" have never forced them to think carefully about energy inputs versus yields because of the price that their marijuana fetches for them.

10 comments:

sumptos devil s advocate said...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the heads up, Tex.

After Christmas we bought 10 sets of the decorative lighting on clearance for $1.49 USD each. A 16 ft. length of fifty LED's is rated for 120V 60Hz 0.02A 2.4W the label says up to 43 sets can be connected in series. I've already strung two sets for working under the house.
They replace the incandescent cage lights I had been using for much less power, and the diffused light doesn't cast such strong shadows, making it easier to find that mislain jack handle or pliers.

If I ever get set up for an underground grow, I'll be on the lookout for the ones that are packaged with the lights lined up in a plastic rack. Should be easy to mount in a plywood or PVC frame for concentrated luminescence.

Bad Dad

Anonymous said...

Hey Tex,

Here is an idea that I have been using, go on ebay and buy some UV led spotlight lightbulbs, they operate on 12v and 2.5 watts, last from 50,000 to 100,000 hours and can operate continuously in tandem with a 12v 12ah battery and a 12v solar panel. They should more then cover a 1ft by 1ft area. Another option is using uv leds in clear tubes and set into the plant's soil like a garden rod and daisy chained, it uses less wattage and a small power source can go along way with this system. I hope this helps you.

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Anonymous said...

Another idea for long lasting lighting sources for personnel is to get a copper tube light which is being sold now for earth friendly individuals, the cost I do not know. It was invented over a hundred years ago and puts out a low light but lasts for a hundred years.

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trueaim said...

I grew up on the Gold Coast, like much of Australia it is a place where the inhabitants are petrified of a individual who can verbally express himself in a reasonable, coherent and intelligent manner, a man who is capable or rational, independent thought will be avoided like the bubonic plague. Sheeple fear intelligence, they sense it, like a animal senses danger and they react accordingly; bewilded, fearful and suspicious.

Anonymous said...

Vault 13 - How about a link? :-P

Texas Arcane said...

Vault 13 - I did a search for copper tube lights and could not find anything. Would greatly appreciate a link or some information on how they work. Sounds interesting indeed.

I used to have a little bulb was called a "copper lamp" that was low voltage arc-light of some kind, I never knew how it worked or where I could get more of them.

Anonymous said...

Sorry Guys,

I've looked everywhere and cannot find a site for the light that was demonstrated on a show for green living several years ago. The closest I can find are gallium LEDs that last for 60 years or 100,000 hours called MR-16 led spotlight bulbs that run on 12v at 2.5 watts but light up an area like a 100watt bulb. These you can find on ebay only it seems,I have looked elsewhere and only find 28 led versions, on ebay they have 48 and 60 led versions. Sorry for raising your hopes but I would swear on my life that there was a commercial copper panel that emitted low light and was being used as a light source that was suppose to last for a hundred years but that was years ago when I saw the documentary of greener living. It was on a program that first showcased the high-tech windows that would cloud over when a current was passed through them instead of using blinds, maybe that will help find the documentary I saw.

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Anonymous said...

Arc lamps, are expensive and used primarily in research as most it would seem emit uv radiation but the technology has been around since the late 1800s when it was used as a lighting source, they have become fluorescent or halogen light bulbs but arc lamps are still available for lighting. On to the light that lasts a hundred years, all I can recover so far is that a charged copper plate will react with arsenic as well with several other compounds such as gallium a relatively new compound and will emit a low level light. I hope this information will help you during your search.

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Anonymous said...

Alright, I have come to the conclusion that since I saw the documentary several years ago, and that until recently LED lightbulbs were very expensive and that Thomas Edison was the inventor of the 'longer lasting filament' which is the basis of LEDs, that that may have been what they were talking about. So LEDs then, I have about 30 of the 12v models but will get the 110v ones for my home to cut electric bills which seem to keep going up. Its kind of funny really, I replaced the bulbs in my home with the fluorescent ones and my electric bill went up. I replaced my AC units from ones with an 8 rating to ones with a 16 rating and my electric bill went up. I bet that when I replace all my fluorescent bulbs with LED bulbs that my bill goes up again. They also seem to charge me for increases in fuel costs even though gas dropped to $1.50 a gallon, my bill is higher then it was when gas was $4.00 a gallon, strange. I wouldn't be surprised if I installed solar panels for my house like my shelter that my electric bill goes up again somehow.

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