Saturday, April 26, 2008

Understanding the Amerikwan Legal System

What's the charge, officer?

You removed by force over 400 children from their mothers and put them into foster parenting homes without review or appeal?

You must have a warrant in your hands, right? What is the charge printed on that warrant? Does the warrant list the prima facie cause for the warrant being issued? Is the accuser a physical person who has sworn testimony before a judge that the judge has decided justifies issuing a warrant for the arrest of person/persons residing at a named address? Does the warrant authorize the immediate removal of children from the parties named in the warrant because of an imminent danger that has been identified in this environment?

This is an excellent introduction to understanding how the legal system works in the U.S.


Ice Cream Soldier said...

Read this TGI;

Anonymous said...

Tex.... the last line on that report confirms what I just barely said in another thread. the cops went out there with a legal warrant. During the time of the raid, there was no evidence to suggest that the warrant was not valid.

Upon investigation, the police discovered evidence of abuse. Now it's in the realm of a full investigation. Regardless of whether the original call was deemed false (which is also still under investigation).

So let's say a cop pulls you over for having a tail light that's not working. And as he walks up to your car, he sees a kidnap victim, tied up and gagged and crying in your back seat.

But, as it turns out, your tail light was working fine all along, and it just 'appeared' that the light was out because a loose piece of garbage in the wind got stuck to your car, covering the brake lens temporarily.

Does that mean the cop should forget about the kidnap victim and let you go free?

They took these children for investigation, under a legitimate warrant based on what they HAD to assume were the facts. then they discovered evidence of real abuse that bears further investigation. It turns out that the original call 'may' have been a fake. We're still not sure, as it is currently under investigation. Are they then supposed to ignore the new-found evidence of child sexual abuse?

Seriously. I am the only sane person on this blog. You guys are all defending child molesters, you want so ship their victims back to them to be raped and brainwashed just because of some black lady's phonecall.

(A Thousand Good Intentions)

Anonymous said...

"You guys are all defending child molesters"

Woa there buddy! Not me! I'm glad they took them away from those religious nutcases.

*Sees tex frothing at the mouth*

*runs like hell*


Anonymous said...

they are not child molesters!
they are alleged child molesters.
it is up to the courts to decide innocence or guilt.
removing 400 children from there parents is child abuse in it'self.
If they are found innocent then those who removed then need to be charged with child abuse or gross stupidity.

Anonymous said...

Thank you ICS, I read your link.

Another opinion from yet another reporter who has no idea what they're talking about.

Can be summed up in this cut out quote: "But this should not deter the nation from realizing the danger of the tenuous legal proposition that mere membership in a group (that may have isolated examples of marrying underage girls) makes all unworthy of possessing any children at all--ever. That is wrong, especially when legal remedies exist to prosecute specific wrongdoers.

...okay. Another opinion from another person who has NO IDEA UNDER GOD what they are talking about.

Try issuing an arrest warrant or apprehending a 'child molester':

In a community where nobody will talk to you, LITERALLY will stare at you and refuse to respond, whether you are asking for directions out of town or directions to someone's house.

In a community that is situated HALFWAY ON A STATE LINE so that while you are asking anonymous person number one, anonymous person number two makes a phonecall to the person under warrant, who calmly walks two blocks over and is out of the police jurisdiction.

In a community where none of the citizens keep I.D.'s available on their person, and will absolutely not cooperate, communicate, or comply with outside authority, short of physical force.

In a community where most people run and hide, lock doors, where children peer at you from fence-holes.

In a community where ALL the houses are held under a trust, controlled by the local church leader. You have no idea who lives where. No names on titles, no addresses posted on the houses.

In a community that is so tightly-knit together and monitored by church authorities, there is no chance at all of infiltrating or surveying discreetly. None at all.

TELL ME HOW YOU WILL EXACT YOUR TRADITIONAL JUSTICE ON SUCH A PROTECTED INDIVIDUAL. There is no way. They absolutely have their whole society set up to defeat arrest warrants, to thwart any attempts of government to enforce law.

There is only ONE way to find out who is raping who. You take them all and do genetic testing, you find out what old man is the father of a fourteen year old girl's two children, you find out who'se sperm is found inside some nine-year-old girl's body. You round them all up, and you figure out the facts.

Bonnie and Clyde. Tell me how there was another way to enforce law and order. Tell me how a police officer or CPS agent is going to save a little girl in that community from being raped by an older male.

TELL ME A BETTER WAY, you smugly ignorant armchair mediator! THESE CHILDREN ARE IN DANGER! they are being raped, molested, damaged psychologically and irreversibly!

You have no idea what these cults truly are unless you have firsthand encounters with them, with their people, with their towns. You just simply are talking out of your ass if you disagree with what the state of texas is trying to do for those children.

(A Thousand Good Intentions)

Anonymous said...

Officials: 31 of 53 girls from sect ranch have been pregnant

SAN ANTONIO (AP) - Texas child welfare officials say more than half the teen girls swept into state custody from a polygamist sect's ranch have been pregnant.
Child Protective Services spokesman Darrell Azar says 53 girls between the ages of 14 and 17 were living on the ranch in Eldorado. Of that group, 31 already have children or are pregnant.

State officials took custody of all 463 children at the Yearning For Zion Ranch more than three weeks ago after a raid prompted by calls to a domestic violence hotline.

Child welfare officials say there was a pattern of underage girls forced into "spiritual marriages" with much older men at the ranch.